Thank you so much Marlo- I so appreciate your help! I’ve sent to anyone and everyone in the news media on every platform try to get someone, anyone to get this conversation started. It’s so frustrating trying to get in touch with any journalists on the cable networks or just any high profile democrat. It’s exhausting but I’ll keep plugging away until I see it picked up. I feel like this is our last shot at reversing the destructive path we are on! TRUTH MATTERS!
I ended up getting sick. RSV maybe as it was far worse than a cold. I was vaccinated for RSV however. So wear masks! It’s bad out there. Very contagious between the flu, RSV, Covid.
I’m so sure that not only you, me, and millions of people (who only have tunnel-vision, and believe DJT’s constant lies, deceit & descriptions)want to know if anyone behind the scenes, hopefully you may know of, is showing, illustrating, provide your data, your proof that the election was stolen.
Is there someone telling, showing a Congress Representative, or a court, a highly-regarded federal attorney.
Even major news networks like CNN, MSNBC, or News Nation?
I, like you, so wish that this true nightmare could, would end!
(You may need to listen a few times, Pause & look at the charts. It is shocking information).
Dr. Elizabeth Clarkson has her doctorate in statistics. She strongly believes the data from the 2024 election points to a high probability of election rigging. To prove this, she would need access to the physical ballots. She would agree to copies, but she would like to see those copies being made as she has grown very suspicious.
Any citizen can make a request if there is a ballot question. In Kansas, she requested this ballot information in a timely manner. She was denied.
Dr. Clarkson needs an attorney, any kind of an attorney, that can assist her in Wicheta, Kansas. (It doesn’t need to be an election attorney). We need to help her.
Do you know of an attorney in the Wicheta area who might be of assistance? Or how to get the word out?
(We could set up a GoFundMe account to help pay for the attorney fees once we got the attorney).
A lawsuit has been filed against Rockland County. The judge agrees the data doesn’t look compatible with reality. Also many voters ballots were not counted. Hand recounts of the paper ballots will be happening. This will most likely show that Harris won which will trigger a cascade of further investigations and hand recounts in the swing states.
Have you read Greg Palast’s research about the purging of ballots in many states by people who are allowed to throw people off the count by challenging them? This happens every election. Also there are states that send postcards to voters that says they must return that postcard if their vote is to count. Most people (9 out of 10) think it is junk mail and throw it away, and their ballot is tossed. Lots of stats from a man that has the credentials to do this kind of investigation.
They had the obligation of asking recounts, of checking things before conceding. They did not move a finger. Biden welcomed Trump back, as if everything was going to remain business as usual.
Kamala should've asked recounts. Just recounts. No election denial or big ruckus. Every race that got recounts (because of down ballot races) shifted the presidential vote to Kamala, by a big margin.
No, that is not what Greg Palast has done work on. He has done work on voter suppression, which is an equally important but distinct and different issue from potential manipulation of the people who did actually vote and theoretically should have had their vote counted. Since I wrote that comment in January, I have compiled an annotated compilation of election anomaly links: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1whdbN8U3JPQ3mcMhyA8XJt8YDmF9mPQ10t8asNdlrWI/ if you would like to explore this issue further.
The Democrats failed fighting back so miserably that from an outsider perspective, mine, it seems as though they didn't do anything at all. So yes, I am blaming them. SOMEONE needs to step up and start putting some muscle into this fight. What we're doing now will not work and we are doomed if it stays that way.
I've been saying this for months now. This was a complete hack job to sell a certain narrative, one that would satisfy Trump's enormous ego. Harris was turning states like Ohio, Iowa, Texas, and Florida purple again. I'm not saying she would have won them, but she was making them competitive. We all saw it in the enthusiasm ahead of time. So, they couldn't just hack the swing states like Wisconsin, Michigan, NC, Georgia, Arizona, etc., because it would have looked really weird if OH, TX, FL, etc. got really close and yet he easily won the swing states.
Ahead of time, they hacked the polling aggregates with all kinds of fake polls to seed the idea that the election was a dead-heat and to lend plausibility to the idea that Trump could win. Then they hacked nearly every state to give Trump a victory that made it look like he was suddenly super popular. (Despite the fact that he hadn't won any election since 2016 and then only barely.)
The Ann Selzer poll was probably right. It had Harris up by 3 in Iowa, but Trump won the state by 8. (By the way, that's the same amount of swing as in Webb County Texas, 11 points.) That's why Trump wants to sue Ann Selzer, because it's a very reputable poll that has seldom been wrong and it's the only thing that isn't fitting in with his artificially produced narrative.
That's when I knew it was fixed. If you look at Selzer's polls vs results in the last 14 elections she is close to 100% accuracy with one exception and that was a 3pt swing I think, not 11. Her polls have never been that wrong. DJT sued her to keep her from speaking publicly to defend herself and her work.
What Smart Elections are showing is that Trump stole the election. He is not honest about anything. It was a rape of peoples votes. Yet, the USA continues to sleepwalk into disaster.
So 2020 election deniers have to accept that 2020 was a "fair and free" election. They don't get to debate it, are told to move on and are called every name in the book in the process. However, 2024 election deniers get to use their voices and free speech and I openly accept your opinion and welcome the challenge with open arms. We are not the same. I look forward to reviewing the results of this if it comes to pass.
So 2020 election deniers have to accept that 2020 was a "fair and free" election. They don't get to debate it, are told to move on and are called every name in the book in the process. However, 2024 election deniers get to use their voices and free speech and I openly accept your opinion and welcome the challenge with open arms. We are not the same. I look forward to reviewing the results of this if it comes to pass.
And yet no one in the Democratic party is listening. Stephen Spoonamore, Jennfier Singh and you are screaming election interference to no avail. Even if they finally believe you, once he's in, we'll never get him out!
Spoonamore dropped off the radar and stopped posting on Substack over a month ago. I've been wondering if someone told him to shut up. In his last post on Dec 10th, he said he'd be posting more details that same day or the next but has posted nothing since.
Yeah, that was alarming. One would like to believe that the Dems told him to shut up, "we're accessing all that internally, wait a bit", something like that. But I find it much more likely that MAGA's and Muskians got to him, scared him, threatened him, something like that. Afterall, Trump already has most of congress under his blackmail schemes. It was probably why he went so much to Epstein's Island.
I’m curious and if you already shared I apologize…but have you compared these drop offs to the 2016 and 2020 elections.
Btw the drop off thing was THE most obvious thing and something I noticed right away in my rudimentary data gathering on PA. I was like —wait why is this down ballot thing happening and why are there more votes for AG or Senator than Pres.
This! I kept hoping the next graph in this article would be “and here’s the drop-off data from the 2020 and 2016 elections for comparison.” Comparing the states in 2024 is telling, but if they look similar to the data from years past, what are they really telling us?
Correct me if I'm wrong, coffee is still kicking in, but the clear implication from these graphs and data is that votes were stolen from Harris and given to Trump in all these states.
Yes. The implication is that code manipulation in counting machines (or by counting personel) created a fake surplus of Trump votes, by the same Muskian algorithm, in most of the country, if not the whole country.
I'm utterly surprised that the Harris/Walz campaign generated so much interest, so much hopeful energy, with a terrific ground game and excellent GOTV campaigns, and the vote counts were so tilted towards the guy who said he had all the votes he needed.
Depends on who you talk to. Dems are disgusted and worried plus I live in WNC and we’re still dealing with the floods and will be for years to come. Many homeless and jobless.
What are we supposed to do with this info? I’ve reached out to my Senator and my Congressman. They all keep saying “we have to accept the results of the election”. Well not if they aren’t accurate…how do we escalate or fix this now or in the future?
This data needs to be in everyone’s hands. We, the people, should focus on Voting Security because it will happen again in Nov. special elections. We must push this issue- sooner than later.
The preponderance...(if there is) of facts will come to the top. Conjecture is just more Ai. "ONE" person did not pull this off. Sounds just like another theory on the loose. Italian space laser? If this boat will float, get it floated!
Kamala should've asked for recounts back in early November. Now all of this is just to bring the truth out. I don't think anything can save the US from a few more Trump years. Unless someone gets Musk to open his mouth.
Trump has been a cheating, lying con-man, all of his life. How could anyone who has watched him foment a coup and steal documents and lie and cheat consistently before and throughout his first presidency and after and not believe that he might do it again in the 2024 election?
He changed his bombastic attitude in the last weeks before the election after Musk stepped in and saved his ass. Dancing and swaying and sleepwalking through his last rallies as if he didn’t need to convince his followers any more. He canceled several rallies and didn’t even need to debate Harris. Why is musk his best Buddy now? Telling him what to do?
Very cool visualization of the differential between the AG/senate and presidential races, by county!
One viable explanation for the dropoff you highlighted is an incumbent and/or popular Democratic senate candidate who successfully captures Republican voters across counties. That is, a Democratic senate candidate who is beloved by many Republicans who otherwise vote along party lines (i.e. for President). How do you rule that explanation out?
How does the 2024 data compare to prior elections in these states or with popular Democratic senate candidates and a tight presidential election?
Sure, that would be reasonable in *some* counties. Do you think it's statistically probable that that happened in *every* county, in multiple states?
The comparisons I've seen to previous years showed what you would expect, some counties where a popular senator outperformed the presidential candidate, others where the presidential candidate outperformed the down-ballot. It's never *every* county in one direction.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I'm no political data expert, so I don't know how probable it is. I'm trying to get a gauge on that by asking whether this is a consistent pattern across all states, or whether this is a significantly different pattern than we've seen in similarly close elections. I was hoping the author could provide some of that context, in the spirit of data transparency. It sounds like you've been exploring some of that context; could you provide helpful links that I could follow to learn more about the probability, by comparing against other states and/or years?
Being 62 years of age, I am not sure as how to read these graphs; yet, even I am unable to figure out how some people would vote Democrats down the ballot, yet vote for Trump.
In ten words or so please explain drop off ballots as though a third grader (meaning a Fox News viewer) could understand it, so we can explain it to our friends and relatives.
Please, please, please, someone please end this nightmare. Sooner than later.
Do we'll need to wait four, eight, twelve years of Trump "winning" successive elections (much like Putin) for the mainstream to catch on?
Kamala, Biden, WHY HAVE YOU FAILED US? Could've just asked a few recounts, ffs.
I have called/emailed my local news stations. I have contacted Gov. Waltz hoping he could contact VO Harris.
I have contact Senator Peters, AOC, Jeffries and Raskin.
Doesn’t anyone care Trump CHEATED again?
Biden could use his executive order to stop this and do hand recounts.
Thank you so much Marlo- I so appreciate your help! I’ve sent to anyone and everyone in the news media on every platform try to get someone, anyone to get this conversation started. It’s so frustrating trying to get in touch with any journalists on the cable networks or just any high profile democrat. It’s exhausting but I’ll keep plugging away until I see it picked up. I feel like this is our last shot at reversing the destructive path we are on! TRUTH MATTERS!
Thank you for all of your efforts Marlo😊
I ended up getting sick. RSV maybe as it was far worse than a cold. I was vaccinated for RSV however. So wear masks! It’s bad out there. Very contagious between the flu, RSV, Covid.
I’m so sure that not only you, me, and millions of people (who only have tunnel-vision, and believe DJT’s constant lies, deceit & descriptions)want to know if anyone behind the scenes, hopefully you may know of, is showing, illustrating, provide your data, your proof that the election was stolen.
Is there someone telling, showing a Congress Representative, or a court, a highly-regarded federal attorney.
Even major news networks like CNN, MSNBC, or News Nation?
I, like you, so wish that this true nightmare could, would end!
If not, our world will, sooner, than later😥
Watch "Interview With CHIEF STATISTICIAN Dr. Elizabeth Clarkson | Linking Kansas 2010s and 2024" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/WOQ-GxJyJN4?si=WoaC74L_ACBWwWjf
(You may need to listen a few times, Pause & look at the charts. It is shocking information).
Dr. Elizabeth Clarkson has her doctorate in statistics. She strongly believes the data from the 2024 election points to a high probability of election rigging. To prove this, she would need access to the physical ballots. She would agree to copies, but she would like to see those copies being made as she has grown very suspicious.
Any citizen can make a request if there is a ballot question. In Kansas, she requested this ballot information in a timely manner. She was denied.
Dr. Clarkson needs an attorney, any kind of an attorney, that can assist her in Wicheta, Kansas. (It doesn’t need to be an election attorney). We need to help her.
Do you know of an attorney in the Wicheta area who might be of assistance? Or how to get the word out?
(We could set up a GoFundMe account to help pay for the attorney fees once we got the attorney).
Go to Electiontruthalliance.org. They created this video.
Nathan has made many good videos on YouTube. He use to go by “Dire Talks.”
UPDATE August 2025
A lawsuit has been filed against Rockland County. The judge agrees the data doesn’t look compatible with reality. Also many voters ballots were not counted. Hand recounts of the paper ballots will be happening. This will most likely show that Harris won which will trigger a cascade of further investigations and hand recounts in the swing states.
Go to: SmartElections.US
Have you read Greg Palast’s research about the purging of ballots in many states by people who are allowed to throw people off the count by challenging them? This happens every election. Also there are states that send postcards to voters that says they must return that postcard if their vote is to count. Most people (9 out of 10) think it is junk mail and throw it away, and their ballot is tossed. Lots of stats from a man that has the credentials to do this kind of investigation.
Don't blame Biden and Harris. Elections are run by States and Counties.
They had the obligation of asking recounts, of checking things before conceding. They did not move a finger. Biden welcomed Trump back, as if everything was going to remain business as usual.
Yes I wish they had done more. I can’t believe they didn’t know it was going on.
How native of you to putbit on Biden and Harris. Go talk to Elonia, who países for this nightmare@
Kamala should've asked recounts. Just recounts. No election denial or big ruckus. Every race that got recounts (because of down ballot races) shifted the presidential vote to Kamala, by a big margin.
Yes! I so wish she would have!
Which ones? Has anyone compiled that data? I would love to see it.
Greg Palast has done lots of research on this.
No, that is not what Greg Palast has done work on. He has done work on voter suppression, which is an equally important but distinct and different issue from potential manipulation of the people who did actually vote and theoretically should have had their vote counted. Since I wrote that comment in January, I have compiled an annotated compilation of election anomaly links: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1whdbN8U3JPQ3mcMhyA8XJt8YDmF9mPQ10t8asNdlrWI/ if you would like to explore this issue further.
The Democrats failed fighting back so miserably that from an outsider perspective, mine, it seems as though they didn't do anything at all. So yes, I am blaming them. SOMEONE needs to step up and start putting some muscle into this fight. What we're doing now will not work and we are doomed if it stays that way.
Dems are in on it. If there was a fix, it wasn’t just republicans. It was a bipartisan effort, trust me.
"trust me"
Yeah, no.
Hi Kia,
What is it you know that we would all love to also know!
Please share!!!
I've been saying this for months now. This was a complete hack job to sell a certain narrative, one that would satisfy Trump's enormous ego. Harris was turning states like Ohio, Iowa, Texas, and Florida purple again. I'm not saying she would have won them, but she was making them competitive. We all saw it in the enthusiasm ahead of time. So, they couldn't just hack the swing states like Wisconsin, Michigan, NC, Georgia, Arizona, etc., because it would have looked really weird if OH, TX, FL, etc. got really close and yet he easily won the swing states.
Ahead of time, they hacked the polling aggregates with all kinds of fake polls to seed the idea that the election was a dead-heat and to lend plausibility to the idea that Trump could win. Then they hacked nearly every state to give Trump a victory that made it look like he was suddenly super popular. (Despite the fact that he hadn't won any election since 2016 and then only barely.)
The Ann Selzer poll was probably right. It had Harris up by 3 in Iowa, but Trump won the state by 8. (By the way, that's the same amount of swing as in Webb County Texas, 11 points.) That's why Trump wants to sue Ann Selzer, because it's a very reputable poll that has seldom been wrong and it's the only thing that isn't fitting in with his artificially produced narrative.
That's when I knew it was fixed. If you look at Selzer's polls vs results in the last 14 elections she is close to 100% accuracy with one exception and that was a 3pt swing I think, not 11. Her polls have never been that wrong. DJT sued her to keep her from speaking publicly to defend herself and her work.
Thanks so much Lulu and the whole team for everything you're doing. I plan to get in touch again tomorrow and see what else I might do to help.
Thank you! We can use your help!
What Smart Elections are showing is that Trump stole the election. He is not honest about anything. It was a rape of peoples votes. Yet, the USA continues to sleepwalk into disaster.
I agree. The Democrats follow the rules and LOSE.
The Republicans CHEAT and WIN. The Democrats IGNORE all the signs and refuse to do hand recounts that would PROVE Harris won.
This will reoccur unless we stop it NOW!
I have called news stations, have you?
So 2020 election deniers have to accept that 2020 was a "fair and free" election. They don't get to debate it, are told to move on and are called every name in the book in the process. However, 2024 election deniers get to use their voices and free speech and I openly accept your opinion and welcome the challenge with open arms. We are not the same. I look forward to reviewing the results of this if it comes to pass.
So 2020 election deniers have to accept that 2020 was a "fair and free" election. They don't get to debate it, are told to move on and are called every name in the book in the process. However, 2024 election deniers get to use their voices and free speech and I openly accept your opinion and welcome the challenge with open arms. We are not the same. I look forward to reviewing the results of this if it comes to pass.
The difference: Trump had recounts - he lost. Trump had over 50 court cases - he lost.
And yet no one in the Democratic party is listening. Stephen Spoonamore, Jennfier Singh and you are screaming election interference to no avail. Even if they finally believe you, once he's in, we'll never get him out!
Spoonamore dropped off the radar and stopped posting on Substack over a month ago. I've been wondering if someone told him to shut up. In his last post on Dec 10th, he said he'd be posting more details that same day or the next but has posted nothing since.
Yeah, that was alarming. One would like to believe that the Dems told him to shut up, "we're accessing all that internally, wait a bit", something like that. But I find it much more likely that MAGA's and Muskians got to him, scared him, threatened him, something like that. Afterall, Trump already has most of congress under his blackmail schemes. It was probably why he went so much to Epstein's Island.
Please let him be okay! He is very courageous & is a needed voice in our day!
I hope he's okay too. I've been worried about him. He seems like a really bright, nice guy with high integrity.
I’m worried about him too, and hope he will be back soon.
I’m curious and if you already shared I apologize…but have you compared these drop offs to the 2016 and 2020 elections.
Btw the drop off thing was THE most obvious thing and something I noticed right away in my rudimentary data gathering on PA. I was like —wait why is this down ballot thing happening and why are there more votes for AG or Senator than Pres.
This! I kept hoping the next graph in this article would be “and here’s the drop-off data from the 2020 and 2016 elections for comparison.” Comparing the states in 2024 is telling, but if they look similar to the data from years past, what are they really telling us?
Correct me if I'm wrong, coffee is still kicking in, but the clear implication from these graphs and data is that votes were stolen from Harris and given to Trump in all these states.
Nice work. Thanks
Yes. The implication is that code manipulation in counting machines (or by counting personel) created a fake surplus of Trump votes, by the same Muskian algorithm, in most of the country, if not the whole country.
A total hack! Harris won!
I live in North Carolina and this is BULLSH*T!
I'm utterly surprised that the Harris/Walz campaign generated so much interest, so much hopeful energy, with a terrific ground game and excellent GOTV campaigns, and the vote counts were so tilted towards the guy who said he had all the votes he needed.
In so many states....
It was never a fair fight..
Exactly.
what are folks saying in North Carolina?
Depends on who you talk to. Dems are disgusted and worried plus I live in WNC and we’re still dealing with the floods and will be for years to come. Many homeless and jobless.
Thanks and best to you and all affected
Thank you!
What are we supposed to do with this info? I’ve reached out to my Senator and my Congressman. They all keep saying “we have to accept the results of the election”. Well not if they aren’t accurate…how do we escalate or fix this now or in the future?
This is how they silence us.
This data needs to be in everyone’s hands. We, the people, should focus on Voting Security because it will happen again in Nov. special elections. We must push this issue- sooner than later.
I’m so with you!!!
The preponderance...(if there is) of facts will come to the top. Conjecture is just more Ai. "ONE" person did not pull this off. Sounds just like another theory on the loose. Italian space laser? If this boat will float, get it floated!
Ok I see what this is showing. My question is what can be done with it? Can we stop the inauguration with a lawsuit? Do we impeach later?
Kamala should've asked for recounts back in early November. Now all of this is just to bring the truth out. I don't think anything can save the US from a few more Trump years. Unless someone gets Musk to open his mouth.
Please don't make me laugh....I will.be dead and burned and the repugnants wil continue in power...
Trump has been a cheating, lying con-man, all of his life. How could anyone who has watched him foment a coup and steal documents and lie and cheat consistently before and throughout his first presidency and after and not believe that he might do it again in the 2024 election?
He changed his bombastic attitude in the last weeks before the election after Musk stepped in and saved his ass. Dancing and swaying and sleepwalking through his last rallies as if he didn’t need to convince his followers any more. He canceled several rallies and didn’t even need to debate Harris. Why is musk his best Buddy now? Telling him what to do?
Winning the 2024 election is just another con!
Very cool visualization of the differential between the AG/senate and presidential races, by county!
One viable explanation for the dropoff you highlighted is an incumbent and/or popular Democratic senate candidate who successfully captures Republican voters across counties. That is, a Democratic senate candidate who is beloved by many Republicans who otherwise vote along party lines (i.e. for President). How do you rule that explanation out?
How does the 2024 data compare to prior elections in these states or with popular Democratic senate candidates and a tight presidential election?
How does the data look in all 50 states?
Sure, that would be reasonable in *some* counties. Do you think it's statistically probable that that happened in *every* county, in multiple states?
The comparisons I've seen to previous years showed what you would expect, some counties where a popular senator outperformed the presidential candidate, others where the presidential candidate outperformed the down-ballot. It's never *every* county in one direction.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I'm no political data expert, so I don't know how probable it is. I'm trying to get a gauge on that by asking whether this is a consistent pattern across all states, or whether this is a significantly different pattern than we've seen in similarly close elections. I was hoping the author could provide some of that context, in the spirit of data transparency. It sounds like you've been exploring some of that context; could you provide helpful links that I could follow to learn more about the probability, by comparing against other states and/or years?
This needs done and numbers should be crunched.
Those of us who still have functioning brains know the election was rigged. The question is what are we gonna do about it? Revolution anyone?
Being 62 years of age, I am not sure as how to read these graphs; yet, even I am unable to figure out how some people would vote Democrats down the ballot, yet vote for Trump.
North Dakota, as well?!? ....Hmmmmmmm....
In ten words or so please explain drop off ballots as though a third grader (meaning a Fox News viewer) could understand it, so we can explain it to our friends and relatives.
How would you explain it to a five year old?
Ishh, that might be tough, I hope someone can give a good answer here and I want that too.
they put extra trump votes and they threw away Kamala votes.